Mātauranga Māori is mythology, not science

For an ad paragraph a few years ago, they read our bullshit there ...

Toby Young points out the stupidity of the British audience :

As a defender of freedom of speech, I sometimes feel like a person who has fallen into a building that is collapsing. The floor gave way again when you thought you had finally arrived. That’s what I felt last week when I read about Professor Garth Cooper’s disciplinary inquiry into the Royal Society of New Zealand.
For the background, Professor Cooper is great in his case. He is Professor of Biochemistry and Clinical Biochemistry at the University of Auckland, where he also heads the Protomics and Biomedical Research Group. He is a Chief Investigator at the Maurice Wilkins Center for Advanced Molecular Bioengineering, a member of the Endocrine Society (USA) and was elected a Fellow of the Academy of Medical Sciences (UK) in 2013.
So why is this outstanding scholar facing expulsion from New Zealand's most prestigious academic community? A few months ago, one in seven of the signatories to a letter to New Zealand's "audience" opposed a proposal by a government task force that schools should value Mরিori myth as much as classroom science. This means that the meaning of the Mওori world - for example, all living things rank and arise from the Pope, the Mother of Heaven and the God of Heaven - is certainly consistent with the theories of Galileo, Newton and Darwin.
Knowing the title and the pope will not let you enter the medical school.

Or, to be honest, as the Czech physicist Lubas Mattel said with him in the title of the play: " Maturanga M মাori is a myth, not science ."

Cooper and his colleagues were less open because they wanted to know the place of the myth - although not the place of the scientific table:

The authors of the article "In Defense of Science" warn that indigenous knowledge is "necessary to preserve and preserve local culture and practice and to play an important role in governance and policy" and should be taught in New Zealand. Schools. But they remove the boundaries by considering them at the same level as physics, chemistry, and biology: "In the discovery of empirical and universal truth they are far from what we can define as science."
In the rational world, this message is out of the question. Surely the Scoops Assembly in 1925 resolved the controversy over whether scientific or religious explanations of the origin of the universe and the rise of man could be taught to schoolchildren? In addition to the difficulty of prioritizing religious views in an ethnically diverse society like New Zealand (what about Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism?), There is a problem that Mরিori students who are already in a predicament will find themselves in a predicament. When teachers protect them, they say there is no need to teach the basics of scientific knowledge. Knowing the title and the pope will not let you enter the medical school.
But when that message is published, that's all.

These witches have been expelled from their universities and the Royal Society of New Zealand - and possibly from society - with open letters in the form of attacks by professionals, including "Hell". Polite

It should be noted that the original Royal Society was at the center of the original Enlightenment project - a historic moment when science was finally (we believe) freed from the confusion of religion and science was finally placed on the throne of reason.

This fact must be taken into account. "The years have been a disturbing call for all of us to 'respect science': Dr. Shawn Handy and Dr. Soxie Wells.

Note that these same rabbis note that ( still ) myth is a science: more than a vice chancellor, assert that

We believe that Mরিori-Mওori and Western empirical science are not mutually exclusive and should not compete. They complement each other and have something to learn from each other.

Instead, they talk about the “trauma” they feel. And keep quiet when other fools shovel:

Daniel Hikurua, a scientist from Auckland, also mentions that M মাori-Mওori, like the Marmataka (Mওori lunar calendar), is "an obvious science." “We didn’t travel to Atero in mythology and legend,” they say to McAllister. "We have failed to balance the environment without knowledge. The Mরিori were the first scientists in Atheros. This letter is all his glory," wrote Tina Engata, living proof of how racism is nurtured and propagated at the New Zealand Academy. .

An example of what happened is a letter from the New Zealand Psychological Association, the president of which. Vaikoremvana Waituki, who said:

"While reviewing the article, it is clear that ethnic characteristics, including a general interpretation of moral panic, were used to justify the exclusion of Mরিori knowledge as forensic science ... Science is a real weapon in the hands of the invaders. A

Isolation of material. 'Colony'. A real weapon. The author, on behalf of his community, concludes that this outrage “emphasizes the need to colonize the existing power base in our educational institutions”. So, the infidels were expelled - and their opinions.

How are you here We come here from their shameless opponents when post-modern philosophers and educators argue that race and the "life experience" of colonialism and slavery obscure today's reality - that epistemology (epistemology) is based on knowledge of ethnic and racial identities. - That science is a subject. The “model” and not the evidence - and the conclusion that everyone’s real subject is now “the science of the victims” and the winner of the group (it was always a group in tribal times) can show most of the historical scars.

Fortunately, not everyone in this pile is silent. One of the indicators of how far witch hunters are from the mainstream is the reaction of the rest of the world. Two responses, in particular, deserve a full quote: one from an open letter from British evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins (which requires no introduction) and one from his University of Chicago colleague Jerry Cohen (who wrote a large part on the subject). They were harassed by witch hunters ...

Hand. Roger Ridley
Royal Society of New Zealand

Dear Dr. Ridley,

I have read Jerry Cowen's long, detailed and simple critique of the Royal Society of New Zealand's unreasonable move to include the M পথori "path of knowledge" in New Zealand science curriculum and the Royal Society's public refusal to protect science - which, above all, your community must do.

The world is full of thousands of creation myths and other colorful legends, each of which can be explored with M মাori myth. Why choose a Mওori legend? Nevertheless, the Mওori came to New Zealand centuries before the arrival of the Europeans. This would be a good reason to study M মাori myth in an anthropology lesson. There may be a good reason for Australian schools to learn about their Aboriginal legends, which were published a few thousand years earlier than the Europeans. Or to teach Celtic mythology in a British school. Or Anglo-Saxon mythology. But no original legend from anywhere in the world, no matter how poetic or extraordinarily beautiful, is classified as science. A science class is not a place to study science that goes hand in hand with real science. There is still plenty of creativity, though many relatives.

The Royal Society of New Zealand, like the Royal Society of which I am honored to be a member, must represent the flag. Not the "West" flag, not the "Europe" flag, not the "white" flag, not the "colonial" flag. Just science. Science is science, and it doesn't matter who does it, where it comes from or what "tradition" it comes from. True science is based on evidence, not imitation. These include preventive measures such as peer review, re-examination of empirical assumptions, double-blind testing, supplementation of false feelings, and testing equipment. True science works: it lands on a comet, creates a plague vaccine, predicts eclipses in the next few seconds, and restores the life of an endangered species, such as the tragic Moa.

If the Royal Society of New Zealand does not keep the original flag in your country, then who? What is the community for? What are the other reasons for its existence?

Very loyal to you
Richard Dawkins FRS
Honorable Professor of Public Understanding of Science
Oxford University

Hand. Roger Ridley

Royal Society of New Zealand

Dear doctor. Ridley

From the news, I understand that the Royal Society of New Zealand is considering expelling two scientists for signing a message against the joint teaching of "true" science and the equality of modern science. As a biologist who has conducted research all my life and spent time with biologists in New Zealand, I found this opportunity very tedious.

The letter, written by two members, along with five others, defended modern science as a way to understand the truth and argued that M মাori should not be taught as a "way of knowing" although culturally and ethnographically in values, like these two disciplines. It was just as effective in telling the truth about our universe. They don't. M মাori science is a collection of myths, religions, and legends that may contain some scientific information, but in order to determine which part is truly true, these claims must be evaluated by modern science: our only "true" path.

I think you know how M মাori are known to incorporate creationism: a creation advocated by fundamentalist Christians in the United States based on a literal text of the Bible. Both American and Mওori creationism are wrong - they deny all the facts about biology, paleontology, embryology, biology, and so on. I have spent my life against creationism as a dignified view of life. It is a matter of shame that your society expels members for advocating against opinions, creations and non-experiential views like evolution.

I hope you will reconsider this move to reject these two members, which, if done, will make the Royal Society of New Zealand laugh.

Heart,
Jerry Quinn
Honorable Professor Dr.
Department of Environment and Development
University of Chicago
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You can (politely) write your letter to the doctor. Roger

Ridley, if you don't want to be quiet. Email roger.ridley@royalsociety.org.nz .

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